All nighters

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Permalink Reply by Geraldine Rodriguez on April 4, 2007 at 7:51am

definitely NOT!!!! that is just the way that profesors punish the students for what profesors once made them go thru......stupid.....stupid...
on the other hand....us architects are PROFESIONAL PROCASTINATORS.....so an all nighter made sense when we kept pushing deadlines to the very last minute........
it's SAD that they make it so torturous to become an architect.....is it worth it???? not sure yet..........

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Permalink Reply by Javier Orive on April 13, 2007 at 1:59am

Buen tema. En los cuatro años que llevo de carrera sólo he conseguido terminar antes de tiempo UNA entrega, eso si, lo hice que ni al pelo: Una semana antes estaba entregada, hechos los planos a mano y todo, incluyendo la maqueta, fotos y demás parafernalia.

¿Por qué acabé una semana antes? Era mi segundo año con esos profesores y no me la iba a jugar, sabía exactamente lo que ellos querían, a mi no me gustaba demasiado, pero la necesidad de aprobar esa asignatura era demasiado fuerte.

Si el proyecto es enteramente tuyo no lo acabas nunca, ni tan siquiera una vez entregado estás completamente contento con el. Creo que eso es lo que nos hace a muchos quedarnos la última noche hasta las mil ( Yo, curiosamente, sea la entrega que sea, la termino SIEMPRE a las 7 de la mañana ), por muy avanzado que lo tengamos.

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Permalink Reply by Charlotte Cintron on April 13, 2007 at 3:45pm

I have to say that all nighters include a lot of time wasted by our part. I remember when i used to pull allnighters in school and let me tell you....I wasted LOTS of time... Eating, distracting my mind, discussing with friends how teachers were just terrible... in reality if I ever would have pulled an allnighter were ALL the TIME I spent was spent working on my project NO distractions, i wouuld have finished the entire project in a couple of hours!!! Maybe everyonce in a while its ok to work late on a project but NEVER all night... YOu are just more tired the next day...and let me tell you a "secret" you waste more time making up for lost sleep than if you would have gone to bed that night!!

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Permalink Reply by Sara Rodriguez Torres on April 17, 2007 at 9:58am

Esa pregunta me recuerda mis primeros días en la Escuela de la UPR…esas famosas iniciaciones que se celebraban como parte de tu “integración” a un grupo artista-científico…las palabras de compañeros de grados más altos que nos decían: “si no te arropas (término comúnmente utilizado para definir un arrope nocturno con trabajo, sustituyendo así el arrope con sábanas que hasta ese momento gozábamos) no te vas a hacer de amigos en los talleres”…ABSURDO, pero en ese momento parecía una norma a seguir…de igual manera los profesores invitaban en sus clases a “arroparse” porque así ellos irían a altas horas de la madrugada a dar críticas y tu trabajo sería uno “mejor”… ya después “arroparse” era cuestión de status… un arrope, dos o más cafés, ojeras interminables, y quedarte dormido en la clase del próximo día…ahh, ahora sí ya no importaba como terminaba el trabajo pero te identificabas con un grupo de personas que hicieron de ésta su norma…así los profesores se encargaban de dar cada vez más trabajo porque de todos modos sus estudiantes se iban a pasar TODA la noche trabajando…En mi opinión NO CREO que sea necesario, y mucho menos tener que abandonar otras materias por la clase de diseño. Pero creo también que los profesores deben tomar en cuenta que más allá de la cantidad de trabajo que requieren, deben considerar que se trata de un PROCESO CREATIVO…el cual toma tiempo generar para que sea un trabajo de calidad, bien pensado y de buen gusto…que los requisitos para entrega sea un balance entre cantidad y calidad para que no se sacrifique ninguna, ni se sacrifiquen las sagradas horas de sueño…

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Permalink Reply by Rafael Marxuach on April 17, 2007 at 7:11pm

great way to put it sara!

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Permalink Reply by Brad Clark on May 9, 2007 at 5:29am

I dont know about architecture courses, but when i was studying art history all nighters were not encouraged but definitely needed......For an undergraduate degree the workload was massive. Each semester we were expected to write six 5000 word essays, 6 20 min presentations, 4 image analysis' , one critical review, a gallery project, one day a week of internship at a gallery and in the last semester a 15-20,000 word dissertation in addition to all that!

Makes me wonder what the hell media studies students do with all their free time. I spoke to a media studies student who told me that their final year dissertation only had to be 6000 words and their essays were all 1500-2000 words........i couldn't believe it!

Not enough hours in the day!

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Permalink Reply by Jaime Fournier on May 27, 2007 at 6:35pm

school?.....Yo me amanezco por lo menos 4 veces al mes para entregas de mis clientes y me gradué hace tres decadas...aaggHHHH nada..nos gusta ese feeling...es parte integral de nuestra naturaleza de no poder acostarnos a dormir..Ja!!

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Permalink Reply by Rafael Marxuach on May 27, 2007 at 7:05pm

Jaime, a mi me sucede algo parecido cuando las ideas y las responsabilidades están rondando, se me hace difcil reconciliar el sueño.
Me parece que desde high school me gustába amanecerme, ya lo hecho de menos luego de un par de dias de haber dormido de corrido.

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Permalink Reply by GAILE GUEVARA on May 30, 2007 at 10:57am

Well for some of us who had to support ourselves through school and work part time jobs while taking full course loads in a design programs ... even a degree program in interior design - it was just normal to expect all nighters during crunch time. If I had the financial freedom of being a lifetime student I would love to complete my masters in architecture and always be taking up more courses in various mediums of design as well business
... design is is a lifetime commitment to education, we are "lifetime students" - by profession I believe any good professional ... technology pushes us to always be learning and improving on our individual skill sets. Been 2 weeks since I have worked on my design blog, I had to make a commitment of taking some time off from being on the computer almost every waking hour. There is something to be said when one is inspired and and energized to work all nighters ... I think if the brain had it's way we would be sleep deprived ... but alas the body requires sleep so a balanced lifestyle is just as important as our love for great architecture.

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Permalink Reply by Jaime Fournier on May 30, 2007 at 3:50pm

La verdad es que se me hace dificil dormir despues de tanto tiempo amaneciendome...cuando me cae el cansancio, me rindo y duermo por dos dias corridos hasta que cojo fuerzas de nuevo..pienso despues de todo, que aunque puede ser la presión de grupo o la necesidad verdadera de terminar un charrette durante tus años de estudio, desarrollas una fortaleza "superior" que te mantiene despierto en tu vida profesional luego.........cuando me comparo con mis amigos de otras profesiones, no entienden como puedes estar sin dormir una noche entera, bañarte a las 9AM y a las 10:30 AM estar con tu mejor traje y corbata explicando sobre el entorno contextual post-semiotico y multivalente que redunda en que la fachada de tu nuevo proyecto parezca un bizcocho...aagggHH!n ja!!

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Permalink Reply by Stephanie Ooms on January 9, 2008 at 3:56am

My father always asks me 'why don't you start working sooner?' They just don't understand that our teachers aren't so generous with their free time, so we need all our classes for them to make remarks, so they can tell us during our last class that something is very wrong about our design, so we are totally stressed on the day of our final evaluation.

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Permalink Reply by Porsche on May 3, 2008 at 10:02pm

All nighters are a pain... I have to say i never pulled an actual all nighters. Missed it by 3 hours. But they should not be necessary. I just finished a project where there was no way around being in the studio to the wee hours of the night/morning. With all other classes and extracurricular activities, and eating, there is no way around it. Not if projects are being assigned to the extent that they are.

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